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Training structure / Curriculum
5 year(s) ago • 3717 views • 10 replies
RM1st DanPending
5 year(s) ago
I'm wondering if anybody follows some sort of syllabus or something of that nature when training judo.
Our situation is a little unique in that my training partners and I all live together and I'm the highest ranked in our community. I've never had the experience of training judo outside of my own gym and neither has anybody else here. We have a couple old school black belts who are fairly involved outside off covid times, but we train 2x/wk pretty much flying solo.
Our training sessions as of right now predictably follow the exact same format we've been using for the past year and a half:
1) warm-up: stretching & ukemi waza
2) drilling: ashi-waza, followed by the first 10 throws from gokyo no waza. We try and drill these first with uchi komis, and then more dynamically by adding in ashi waza to set up the throws.
3) spotlight techniques (for lack of a better term): can include stuff like throws we want to work on, judo-specific ne waza, osaekomi waza etc
4) randori: usually very short sessions which may include "french randori", randori with handicaps (like one opponent has to hold tennis balls or only fight one handed), or most of the time we do just straight shiai.
I should note that we are primarily a bjj school, and I've been doing bjj for a while now and have a satisfactory approach to running my bjj classes... But judo is still fairly new to me so I want to make sure we're not missing anything important!
Thanks in advance!
Our situation is a little unique in that my training partners and I all live together and I'm the highest ranked in our community. I've never had the experience of training judo outside of my own gym and neither has anybody else here. We have a couple old school black belts who are fairly involved outside off covid times, but we train 2x/wk pretty much flying solo.
Our training sessions as of right now predictably follow the exact same format we've been using for the past year and a half:
1) warm-up: stretching & ukemi waza
2) drilling: ashi-waza, followed by the first 10 throws from gokyo no waza. We try and drill these first with uchi komis, and then more dynamically by adding in ashi waza to set up the throws.
3) spotlight techniques (for lack of a better term): can include stuff like throws we want to work on, judo-specific ne waza, osaekomi waza etc
4) randori: usually very short sessions which may include "french randori", randori with handicaps (like one opponent has to hold tennis balls or only fight one handed), or most of the time we do just straight shiai.
I should note that we are primarily a bjj school, and I've been doing bjj for a while now and have a satisfactory approach to running my bjj classes... But judo is still fairly new to me so I want to make sure we're not missing anything important!
Thanks in advance!
JMNovice/First trainingVerified
5 year(s) ago
I think it really makes a huge difference if it's kids / teens / adults.
Any form of standup grappling is far harder on adults compared to ground grappling if people are not conditioned to take falls since early age.
Any form of standup grappling is far harder on adults compared to ground grappling if people are not conditioned to take falls since early age.
RM1st DanPending
5 year(s) ago
We're an intentional community of adult grapplers. We train judo 2x/wk. We definitely work on our breakfalls!
We're all really looking forward to competing again, post-vaccine, so we're looking for a little help in how to structure our training.
Any thoughts on the subject are greatly appreciated, thanks!
We're all really looking forward to competing again, post-vaccine, so we're looking for a little help in how to structure our training.
Any thoughts on the subject are greatly appreciated, thanks!
JMNovice/First trainingVerified
5 year(s) ago
E.g. we play a lot of "unbalancing" games, learning trips (gari) and sweeps (barai) in a joint drill where the objective explicitly is not to throw but make a person stumble.
JP2nd DanPending
5 year(s) ago
For the sake of conversation, who still teaches morote gari, kuchiki taoshi, or kibisu gaeshi? These are a huge part of my Judo game, and we still do a lot of the kinishi waza. I've found most schools still teach them, but only as a box to check, not to develop a high level of proficiency.
RM1st DanPending
5 year(s) ago
For the sake of conversation, who still teaches morote gari, kuchiki taoshi, or kibisu gaeshi? These are a huge part of my Judo game, and we still do a lot of the kinishi waza. I've found most schools still teach them, but only as a box to check, not to develop a high level of proficiency.
I don't know what any of those words mean.
JP2nd DanPending
JMNovice/First trainingVerified
5 year(s) ago
For the sake of conversation, who still teaches morote gari, kuchiki taoshi, or kibisu gaeshi? These are a huge part of my Judo game, and we still do a lot of the kinishi waza. I've found most schools still teach them, but only as a box to check, not to develop a high level of proficiency.
The judo schools in my are don't anymore because they're highly competition judo oriented :(
The old guys gladly accept though when proposed to randori under the old ruleset.
The old guys gladly accept though when proposed to randori under the old ruleset.
RM1st DanPending
5 year(s) ago
Double leg, single leg, and ankle pick.
Thanks! Now it makes sense that I had never heard of those. We're primarily a BJJ school, so we practice those on a regular basis, outside of judo.
In judo class we exclusively train only what we'd be able to execute in judo competition.
In judo class we exclusively train only what we'd be able to execute in judo competition.
SC2nd DanPending
5 year(s) ago
Randori: given that we're doing this in our apartment and we don't want to annoy the crap out of our neighbors, we don't do full randori.
As someone with noisy neighbors, I can speak on behalf of your neighbors in saying "thank you" lol
